Comments on: New Google Talk client still needs improvements http://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/ faith - technology - culture Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Bernie Zimmermannhttp://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-4057 Bernie Zimmermann Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:52:26 +0000 http://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/#comment-4057 Great post (and comments). I've been trying out GTLE and its shortcomings immediately jumped out at me as well. I almost wish they would have just added the Google Calendar notifications to the current GT client. That would give me everything I want. Now, I can no longer display the music I'm listening to and I can't choose to see only friends who are online (rather than the list of all my contacts, online or not).I sent some feedback to the GTLE team, but I'll likely be switching back to the normal Google Talk client very soon. Great post (and comments). I’ve been trying out GTLE and its shortcomings immediately jumped out at me as well. I almost wish they would have just added the Google Calendar notifications to the current GT client. That would give me everything I want. Now, I can no longer display the music I’m listening to and I can’t choose to see only friends who are online (rather than the list of all my contacts, online or not).

I sent some feedback to the GTLE team, but I’ll likely be switching back to the normal Google Talk client very soon.

]]> By: Bishhttp://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-3983 Bish Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:16:19 +0000 http://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/#comment-3983 Alex is right: it doesn't use the official internet method for sending messages, and that was a big selling point for GTalk -- it is a step forward toward everyone talking the same language, the method which was voted the best, that sold it for me. Not to use the official methods for sending internet messages makes this client no better than the obsolete proprietary ones (which themselves need to die like bitnet).Instead of the approved and official protocol for message passing, GTLE uses a completely insecure, wasteful and not even private method for sending messages. I'm no more a freak on this than the next guy, but there's no reason YOU need to be reading what I'm saying to my cousin about the Transformers movie, unless you're my cousin.Basically, then, in addition to offering less features, it also doesn't even use the right methods for how it sends the IM messages. It's a step backward for sure. Alex is right: it doesn’t use the official internet method for sending messages, and that was a big selling point for GTalk — it is a step forward toward everyone talking the same language, the method which was voted the best, that sold it for me. Not to use the official methods for sending internet messages makes this client no better than the obsolete proprietary ones (which themselves need to die like bitnet).

Instead of the approved and official protocol for message passing, GTLE uses a completely insecure, wasteful and not even private method for sending messages. I’m no more a freak on this than the next guy, but there’s no reason YOU need to be reading what I’m saying to my cousin about the Transformers movie, unless you’re my cousin.

Basically, then, in addition to offering less features, it also doesn’t even use the right methods for how it sends the IM messages. It’s a step backward for sure.

]]> By: Shawnhttp://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-3974 Shawn Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:45:52 +0000 http://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/#comment-3974 Alex, while you may be speaking greek to some, thanks for giving us a better technical glimpse into the flaws of GTLE. I appreciate it! Alex, while you may be speaking greek to some, thanks for giving us a better technical glimpse into the flaws of GTLE. I appreciate it!

]]> By: Alexhttp://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-3973 Alex Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:44:37 +0000 http://shawnw.org/new-google-talk-client-still-needs-improvements/#comment-3973 for me this client is a step backwards. There is no jingle and it looks like it does not speak xmpp anymore but sends all messages unencrypted over the network embedded in http requests. for me this client is a step backwards. There is no jingle and it looks like it does not speak xmpp anymore but sends all messages unencrypted over the network embedded in http requests.

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